Good afternoon, scholars.
I'm simply adding this thread in the event you are working on assignments and have general questions that I obviously cannot address in class. I do hope to be back before the week is out; however, this case may actually go for the next two weeks. In any event, I don't want to feel disconnected from you.
If you have any questions about the grammar, readings, vocabulary, or writing assignments, please use this blog as a way for me to provide some instruction.
I hope to see you very soon!
Sunday, February 10, 2008
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Hey Ms. Arney, um, for the essay....I'm confused as to the concrete details. I was wondering if we could use the direct quotes as the concrete details, or do they have to be seperate? Because some of the things that Barge and Freedman say can technially be used as concrete details.....
Thanks!!!
Quotes are concrete details...just remember that they need to be properly embedded, so to establish context, you will have to add a separate sentence.
Good question!
For the essay, (con side) where should the quote be from, To Kill a Mockingbird or the literary criticism? Also for paragraphs 3 and 4, should we use two quotes in para 3 & two in para 4, or one quote in each paragraph?
Thanks
OK, Ambika. Let me break this down one at a time :-)
a) For the con paragraph, you probably should select the essay as a source for the quote.
b) 2 quotes in paragraphs 3 & 4 minimally (at least 1 from the novel and one from the essays).
Hope this helps!
Simple question, for the conclusion (paragraph 5), is there a minimum number of sentences that need to be in that paragraph?
How many sentences have to be in the introduction and the conclusion? Do they have to be 11 sentences?
For the introduction, can we start with a quote from an online source? Or does the quote we use as our grabber have to be from the packet or from the text?
~Thanks
In the introduction, do we have to mention Freedman or Barge at all?
For the introduction, would this be how to annotate the story?
Two children grow up during the Depression in a Southern town with their father who agrees to defend a colored man in court.
For the con side (2nd paragraph), I'm confused about how to write what Freedman would say. (I'm on Barge's side)
Cristelle & Margaret:
The conclusion and introduction should be approximately 5 sentences (minimally).
Allison:
You should mention the battle of the critics (where the article appeared, etc) in the intro briefly.
Lindsey:
Focus on Atticus; don't make the children the subject of the sentence. The children (and how they are raised) is the secondary part of that sentence. Good question!
Vickie:
You are going to transition into the paragraph by saying that: Some critics and readers would argue that Atticus Finch is nothing more than a gentleman and certainly not a hero. [Insert full name here] is one such attorney who took such a stance in [periodical].
Helpful?
ALL STUDENTS:
For those of you looking for the +5 for early submission, any essay emailed to me by 6 PM tomorrow evening as a WORD ATTACHMENT (not in an email) will earn the bonus points. It was wonderful seeing all of you today!
What do we refer to Barge and Freedman as in our essays?
Fran I think we refer to them as: According to one perspective or According to one source. Thats what it says on the bottom of our checklist, but I guess hear from Miss Arney to double check.
in the con paragraph do we argue against the opposing side in the commentary? and, can we use more than one quote in the con paragraph?
when should we hand in grammar or sentences?
Is it okay if we have three commentaries following a concrete detail, instead of two.
In the paragraphs for the pro side do we need one arguement for each paragraph? Also, for each paragraph for the the pro side do we need one quote from the book and one from the critics?
For the third and fourth paragraph, can the quotes from the novel be paraphrased or do they have to be direct
If i wanted to use the Calpurnia argument on the pro side, would i need a quote? or should that only be in the con
Can u have 2 quote in the 1st pharagraph? Also for the con you still need to concrete deatails and 2 comentaries for each? Quotes can be concrete details right?
For pharagraph 3&4 you just need one argument with how many details backing it up? You also need a pharaphrase 2 quotes one from the text and one from the essay? Then once you say the quotes are you just explaining how they help your side?
I don't know if any of you are still working on this, but let me apologize...I teach at LIU on Wednesday nights and just got home a little while ago.
OK, here we go:
Fran: They are attorneys, so set up how this debate started (or just call them literary critics). Lindsey's idea is fine too! (Thanks, Lindz!)
Alex: Don't argue against the con side in the con paragraph; save the ripping-it-apart for the next paragraphs.
Vickie: They are due on Friday; tomorrow +5
Allison: U Rock! 3 would be WONDERFUL
Megan: One argument per paragraph (topic sentence); 3 concrete details per argument
Shane: I want you guys practicing embedding the quotes, so 2 must be direct; one may be paraphrased PER paragraph
Vickie: As long as you have other quotes, no. It can be a paraphrased concrete detail.
Maureen: If you mean paragraph 2 (not the intro), then yes to everything you asked. THEN: please see my comments to Megan. As for the quotes, TWO direct quotes (ONE from essay; ONE from novel) and one concrete detail / paraphrase OR direct quote from either PER paragraph. Yes, the CM (commentaries) are your analysis of how they prove your point!
GOOD LUCK, SCHOLARS!
For the TKAM comparative essay, do we need to write 4 or 5 paragraphs & are we writing about similarities and differences between the movie and book, or just 3 major differences between the two?
Thanks
Hi, Ambika.
The class website has been updated (from the agenda page) to provide some clarity on this.
You should be doing 5 paragraphs and should focus on 3 points of comparison between the two (one in each body paragraph).
Hope this helps!
Do we need to have the class heading on each sheet of our essay? Also, our quotes do not need to be direct, and we do not need to ICE them right?
No..the MLA heading goes on the left side of the first page only. Then, your last name and page number should be in the upper right hand corner of every page.
You don't need to quote directly from the film, but you could from the book. If you quote, you must ICE.
Do we need a title for our essay?
I was wonderine ig the essay needs to have a title if not I made my title To Kill a Mockingbird: Text to Film Comparative Essay and I wanted to underline the whole thing but To Kill a Mockingbird is already underlined so can i just underline the whole thing and put To Kill a Mockingbird in italics?
If I was writing about Aunt Alexandra and Mrs Dubose, would that be all in a character paragraph? or is that two different comparisons in two body paragraphs?
You should have a title...and, Maureen, consult the MLA Handbook about how to write your titles :-)
Vickie: It's up to you. What is your central argument?
Are we supposed to be using only one passage for the annotation extra credit?
do we have to use the 11 sentence model or the 8 sentence model.
I know I already asked you this today and you wrote it on my paper so I'm pretty sure you wrote that when citing a quote its (Lee Pg#). This is a really stupid question because you wrote that I should have quotation marks on my paper but for some reason I keep thinking that when you parapharase something you don't need quotation marks but I'm definitally wrong so never mind.
Nevermind about the 2nd part of what I wrote because I just realized that I am using a quote.
OK...I posted this about 2 hours ago and it didn't show up...sorry guys.
Anonymous: Yes; you need a title
Maureen:???? does this have to do with what you put in the email?
Miss Arney i was wondering for the novel notes if we could work in pairs like last time and if yes how many people in each group???
Erica (and everyone else): I guess period 2 didn't hear the message clearly. Novel notes may be done in small study groups from now on (unless otherwise stated).
I think period 9 did a good job of spreading the news, though :-)
Ok this is a really stupid question but should brother in the novel notes be capitalized?
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